Johnny Jumper Kelso

Johnny Jumper, owner of Pee Jay Farm in Ripley Mississippi, is a Living Legend in the Sports of Cockfighting Hall of Fame.

Before he become known in the world of cockfighting, Johnny worked at a shoe factory. Johnny raised chickens and into cockfighting but not dominant to be known.

Johnny is very close friend of Cecil Davis. Cecil Davis had a lot of country walks for gamefowls. Cecil had 100 stag walks from Walter Kelso and 50 stag walks from Bill Japhet almost every year. Walter and Bill got their main breeds from John Madigin and Thomas Murphy when these two gentlemen decided to quit the sports. Both Walter and Thomas are known for breed named after them. Cecil also got all stocks of Walter and Bill and become known for Cecil Davis Kelso gamebreed. Johnny got some good Cecil Davis Kelso from Cecil particularly the Out & Out Kelso families.

Bill sent a stag to Cecil for country walk. Cecil then sent this same stag when he was a cock to Johnny for training. When the time come to fight him, Cecil told Johnny not to use him because they do not know where he come – the pedigree that is. But at a later time, they showed this cock twice. The first against Curtis Blackwell green legged Hatch in Alabama cockfight event. The second in Arkansas cockfight event where the owner and breed of the opponent was forgotten by years past. On both occasion, american gaff was used.

This cock, now a two-time winner, is a yellow legged straight comb medium red cock. Johnny become fond of this cock as this cock will sing, as Johnny puts it, all day long like a radio. Johnny called this cock Radio. Johnny asked Cecil to ask Bill the pedigree of this cock. They were told by Bill that it was from a Whitehackle cock and Murphy hen breeding.

Johnny bred this cock to a Grey hen which was a half Blueface half Bumblefoot Grey in breeding. The offsprings were too fast and has terrible performance.

Then the nick of the Radio. Johnny bred this cock to a yellow legged peacomb Kelso hen. The offsprings were of good performance. Johnny chose the best daughter of straight comb type every breeding season until he got 31/32 of the original cock linebred offsprings. These are the Radio gamebreed we have known and desired until now.

The late former Philippine Congressman James Chiongbian of Sarangani entry at World Slasher Cup was very successful using Radio and Kelso from Johnny. Johnny and James were very good business friends. Philip Chiongbian, son of James, is continuing the devotion to Johnny Jumper gamefowls and uses Johnny’s fowl for his King Cobra entry. Most of the big name in Philippine cockfighting already imported their Radio and Kelso stocks from Johnny. These two breeds from Johnny will remain on top of the performance decades from now.

Johnny characterized his Radio as very aggressive non-stop fighting, body puncher, medium station, round body, straight comb, yellow legged, medium red and whitehackle hackle. Johnny characterized his Kelso as very aggressive high flying fighting, yellow and white legged, straight and pea comb, dark and light red. Johnny mentioned that both his Radio and Kelso are not smart but has very quick reflexes and a deliberate strong blows.

Johnny Jumper Tribute cockfighting events were held at Sunset Recreational Club and Bayou Club years ago when it is legal to fight birds in Louisiana cockfight events. In these two very prestigious cockpit, Radios and Kelsos were performing well in all weapons – short knife, long knife, and gaff.

Johnny also breeds Grey, Roundhead, Hatch, and Aseel breed.

Johnny got a musical family background and played the guitar in band named Johnny Jumper and the Rhythm Drifters. The Pee in his farm stands for the last name of his business partner Ray Price, the musician.

Johnny is always a gentleman and very good conversationalist. He does not guess what other person might say or think about a subject or why the other person did something. He say he does not know the answer. He just say what he thinks or what he knows about the subject. Johnny is love by his wife Doris, son Randy and his grandson Nathan. Johnny is a cancer survivor. He is doing well and healthy during my visits.

I will leave you with Johnny’s word about the Radio.

“Cecil brought me a rooster to train one time…and this rooster was very noisy. He was happy, happy all the time. So, I trained him and uh I’d exercise him and he was just so noisy. He had a great mental attitude. So, I named him Radio. I gave him the name Radio cause he talked all the time. And that…that name has stuck with those chickens since 1962. And course people call “you the man that invented uh come up with the radios?” and I say well I come up with this one rooster you know and so I bred him to 1 kelso hen then I bred him back to 15/16 of him and that’s how the…and I still have that family to this day. We call them Radios but they are red chickens with yellow legs. Their basic bloodline was 1/2 whitehackle I was telling you about and 1/2 murphy. They come from Mr. Murphy up in New York. That’s what the rooster was made up out of, but we still have them today and they have such a great mental attitude. That’s so important…the mental attitude.”

Llamado Tayo: Know your cock by heart

Llamado Tayo


Know Your Cock by Heart


Handle your cocks with tender loving care; they can appreciate and reciprocate love.

Know yourself is an age-old dictum in warfare. In cocking, you also have to know your cock.

After you have selected your champions, the next thing to do is to know them individually.

Man and rooster should get to know each other more. A good conditioner always endeavors to find out more about his cock. Know your cock and half the battle is won, as the great Chinese general Sun Tzu would have said.

It is not enough that you note your cock’s fighting weight. It is also important to know if he likes to be moved around more, or he fights better if just left on his own for days, say in a fly pen or on the tie cord.

One of the first things you should check on a newly acquired cock is his metabolic rate. You would want to know whether this particular cock gets fat or heavy easily or whether he needs more amount of feeds to stay in shape. One way of knowing the metabolic rate of your chicken is to set a standard amount of feeds for a certain weight group.

For instance, using my maintenance feeds of 50-50 pigeon pellets and concentrate, I feed 35 grams per feeding for cocks weighing 1.8 to 2 kilos. I can determine more or less the metabolism of the individual cocks by monitoring which ones get overweight, which ones fall under the ideal weight and which one maintain the right weight.

This knowledge is important once you get into the pre-conditioning and conditioning stages, as you will know then whether this cock needs more exercise and less feeds or the other way around.

Know the cock’s natural bio-rhythm. Know what it loves to do. Know the fighting weight, the right body feel, the right diet. Most of all, always handle your cocks with tender loving care. They are living things that can appreciate and reciprocate love.

Keep a sparring record. From it you can more or less judge the respective bio-rhythm of your cocks. An experiment conducted by RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology showed that most cocks have about two weeks upside performance, two weeks downside. Meaning, they reach peak performance about once every month.

After peaking they experience a down curve for two weeks, or two sparring sessions if you spar your cocks weekly. Then, afterwards, they start peaking again.

This might explain the old tradition of timing the fight of a certain cock on a certain stage of the moon cycle. The lunar cycle is also 28 days or two two-week periods.

But a few cocks have a longer cycle of three weeks, and rare are the cocks that consistently performed well every week.

Know your cock well and it’s a way to victory.






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fter you know your cock, leave him alone. Yes, do not push your cock too hard.

There was a scientific study that showed birds (gamefowl are birds) have little room in the brain for learning new tricks. They mostly act on instinct. So, you cannot teach a cock how to fight, you cannot train a cock to break high, you cannot tell the cock to shuffle hard. Just know if a cock can do any or all of these, and thus, try to naturally enhance these attributes through ample exercise, good care, right nutrition and an ideal environment.

Some cockers in an effort to dramatically improve their cocks’ performance resort to heavy table workouts. Others give their birds steroids, hormones and stimulants.

But what I learned from the masters is that no amount of feeds, additives or training can make a good cock out of a bad one. Over feeding and over training will never make an ace out of a bum cock. On the contrary, it can easily make a bum cock out of an ace.

After years of keenly observing, asking around and learning, I have formulated a cocking principle which I called the art of least intervention.

Once I find a good cock, I proceed to know it from head to toe, so to speak. I would learn what kind of body feel and in what weight it fights best. I would learn whether it loves to be well rested or it fights best when made hyper active. Then I give exactly what it wants.

In the later part of this book, you will read my pre-conditioning and conditioning methods. You will find mine simpler than most other systems.

I do not table-work my cocks. Except those with very low metabolism or those that love to be over exercised. If I do table exercises, it is only when necessary to fine tune the wing and leg muscles.

My exercises are mainly limited to rotation from tie cord to conditioning pens to fly pens to scratch box to 3x3 wire pens. In the early morning before sunrise, I do a little salida, kahig at sampi under artificial light in the sparring pit.

For overweight cocks, I put them back down the ground every time they try to perch at sundown. When they fly up the roost I place them back on the ground. When they fly again I put them down again. Five or six repetitions of this every day will help the cock lose weight.

I spar my cocks once a week, for two or three rounds every session. In sparring I put premium on developing the cocks’ alertness and focus. I do this by pitting them close, three feet apart, in the first round and allowing only two buckles or hits. In the second round I set them about six feet apart and for four buckles. I rest them for a couple of minutes and then spar them again this time far apart and for a longer period. However, I always make it a point to break them as soon as either of the cocks manages a bill hold.

As to conditioning aids, I don’t use any steroids, hormones or stimulants. I inject vitamin b complex every 15 days and give regularly other vitamin and mineral pills, directly or through their drinking water; and some electrolytes on hot days. Other than those, I rely on my regular feeds.

I love to just watch my cocks, to observe them how they are doing going through the count down to fight day. I love to watch them scratch, watch them fly, watch them walk inside the conditioning pen, and watch them gobble up all the feeds. I specially love to watch them at sunrise, when they seem to be at their best.

I don’t push my cocks. I don’t even condition my cocks. I just watch them condition themselves—this I learned from the masters; and this I call the science of least intervention.



Mga pasabong ng MANA

Sa November 18 ang susunod na pasabong ng MANA-Lu sa Pasay Cockpit. Ang kikitain ng pasabong ng Manalu sa Pasay ay mapupunta sa kanilang street children feeding activity sa Tondo sa susunod na buwan. Makipagugnayan lang tayo kay kamanang Loreto Casalhay, 0918-271-3548.

Sa December 15 naman ang pasabong ng MANA Cavite sa Arcontica Coliseum. 1-cock fastest kill ulutan ito at marami at malalaki ang papremyo nila kamanang Gani Dominguez. Ang MANA-Cavite ay ang pinakamalaki at pinaka aktibong chapters ng MANA sa buong Luzon. Mamimigay ang MANA ng mga libreng Manwal ng MANA sa Makabagong Pamamaraan ng Pagpili at Pagkundisyon sa mga lalahok. Suportahan po natin ang pasabong nila. Kontak kamana Gani, 0928-521-2513.


3-cocks sa Baras
May 3-cock derby sa Baras, Rizal sa December 11. Ang promoter po nito ay si kamanang Gilbert and friends. Todo suporta po sa paderbeng ito ang MANA Rizal na pinamumunuan ni kamana Jun Santos.

P150,000 ang guaranteed prize at P3,300 lang ang entry fee. P 3,300 din ang minimum bet.Sponsored po ito ng Bmeg. Assisted by Boss Abet, Rizal Cyber Cockers at Masang Nagmamanok (MANA) Inc.

Ang kikitain po nito ay mapupunta sa mga biktima ng typhoon ondoy.

For more details text nyo lang si kamanang Jun Santos 0908-895-9623, o si kamana Gilbert mismo, 0927-289-8313.

Patuloy lang po tayong magbasa ng Larga at magpunta sa tilaok.blogspot.com para sa mga balita at karagdagang kaalaman sa pagmamanok at mga kaganapan hinggil sa Masang Nagmamanok (MANA).

Holcomb Hatch

Holcomb Hatch
by Frank Holcomb
It is thought the original Hatch was bred by Judge Leiper, not Sandy Hatch, as most people believe. They were supposed to be a Kearney Whitehackle and a Kearney Brown Red cross. Leiper also bred a cock from Duryea. In 1900 Hatch got some dark red, green legged fowl from Cassidy (some say Lynch). He bred a black red cock from Jerry Genet, of New York. This Genet Pyle cock was bred over the Cassidy (Lynch) hens, and this was the starting of the Hatch fowl.
In 1933, Hennie Mathesius went ot work for Hatch and carried his fowl with him. These fowl were Morgan Whitehackles, some Lowman blood, and some Gull/Morgan crosses. Some of these were crossed on the Hatch fowl.
Hatch gave all of his fowl to Mathesius, who later sold them to C.C. Cooke, who soon after that became a partner of E.W. Law.
We must give Cooke the credit for the Hatch fowl that we have today. J.D.. Perry made the first niche with Cooke's Hatch, but that is what Cooke paid him for.
It would be too long and complicated to write a complete history of all the different blood lines and different Hatches and their blood lines, but as to ours, the Holcomb Hatch, we will try to make it very brief, and not any more confusing than possible.
We started out with a Ruble Hatch cock, over a Sweater McGinnis (Blue Face) hen. At the same time, we bred a Democrat cock over J.D. Perry hen. The we bred the off-spring of these two together, making their off-spring 1/4 Ruble, 1/4 Democrat, 1/4 Blue Face and 1/4 Perry. At the same time of the above breeding, we bred in another pen, a Chocolate Gray cock over a jet black Aseel hen, (directly from Pakastan, and one of the very best strains of Aseel), thus giving 1/2 Chocolate Grey and 1/2 Aseel. This we crossed over the four kinds of Hatch, giving 1/2 Hatch, 1/4 Chocolate Grey and 1/4 Aseel for the first year. Then we bred back to the Hatch saide, father over daughter and son over mother, thus giving 3/4 Hatch, 1/8 Chocolate Grey and 1/8 Aseel. We keep three pens of this combination, and this we proudly call our Holcomb Hatch.

Factors that affect egg production

By Phillip Clauer

Birds stop laying suddenly at various times of the year, with no patterns or warning. In this article, Phillip J. Clauer describes some common reasons for this....

A. Decreasing day length or insufficient day length
Hens require 14 hours of day length to sustain egg production. Once day length drops below 12 hours, production will decrease and frequently stop. This happens naturally from October through to February. To prevent this, provide artificial light to maintain a constant day length of at least 14 hours per day. One 40 watt light for each 100 square feet of coop is adequate.

The lights should be added in the morning hours so the birds can go to roost as the sun sets. This prevents birds from being stranded in the dark when lights are turned out during dark hours. Some small flock owners find it easier to leave the lights on continuously. This is not a problem as long as you do not use light bulbs over the 40 watt size. However, the time clock will help lower your electric bill.

B. Improper nutrition
Layers require a completely balanced ration to sustain maximum egg production over time. Improper nutrition can occasionally cause hens to stop laying.The most common problem is failing to provide a constant source of fresh water. This is especially a problem during the coldest months when the water can freeze. Provide adequate water equipment so the birds always have fresh water.Inadequate levels of energy, protein or calcium can also cause a production decrease.

This is why it is so important to supply your laying hens with a constant supply of nutritionally balanced layer food balanced at 16% - 18% protein. Feeding whole grains, scratch feeds and table scraps will cause the birds diet to become improperly balanced.Many times these imbalances can cause other problems like prolapse (egg blow-outs). Prolapse is caused when the bird is too fat and/or egg is too large and the birds reproductive tract is expelled with the egg. Prolapse usually cause permanent damage to the hen and is fatal in many cases.

Feeding oyster shell "free choice" (always available) is also a good idea to help insure strong egg shells.

C. Disease
Disease problems can occur under the best of conditions. Often one of the first signs of disease is a drop in egg production. Other symptoms of disease include dull and listless appearance, watery eyes and nostrils, coughing, molting, lameness and mortality in the flock.

Remember some death is normal over the period of a year in any flock. However, if you suspect a disease, contact a skilled veterinarian for help in examining your flock and get an accurately diagnosis and treatment.

Your best protection against disease is to buy healthy stock and keep them isolated from other birds. Buying adult poultry and introducing them to your flock is asking for trouble. If you wish to increase your flock, buy chicks from a reputable hatchery or hatch some of your own eggs. Adult birds can look healthy and carry diseases.

D. Aging Hens
Production hens can lay efficiently for two laying cycles. However, after two or three years, many hens decline in productivity. This varies greatly from bird to bird. Good layers will lay about 50 to 60 weeks per laying cycle. Between these cycles they will be interrupted by a rest period called a molt. Poorer layers and older hens will molt more often and lay less. Removal of non-layers is recommended if economical egg production is your goal.

E. Stress
Any stress such as moving, handling, changes in environmental conditions or fright can contribute to or be the main cause for egg production declines. Common stresses include:

*Chilling. Chickens do not handle damp, drafty conditions well. Prevent excessive exposure to wet, drafty conditions during colder months.
*Handling or moving. Once the laying flock is in place, limit any unnecessary moving or handling. Switching roosters or changing the pens population will also disrupt the pens pecking order and cause some temporary social stress in your flock.
*Parasites. If external or internal parasites are present, get proper diagnosis and treatment.
*Fright. Limit the movement of children, dogs, livestock and vehicles around your flock as well as loud noises to prevent frightening the hens.
*Predators. Also can stress the birds and create a decrease in production.

F. Other problems to consider when you see a decrease in egg collection:
*Predators and snakes consuming the eggs.
*Egg-eating by hens in the flock.
*Excessive egg breakage.
*Hens hiding the eggs when able to run free.

The Gilmore fowl

The Gilmore Hatch Gamefowl History

The Gilmore Hatch Gamefowl History
By BluffCreek:

Lun Gilmore was a cocker and a good friend of Ben Ford, they fought birds with and against each other for over 60 years. Lun Gilmore acquired his birds direct from Sanford Hatch and Mike Kearny.


When Mike crossed the Kearny Brown Reds on the Hatch birds they were awesome as any ever bred until this day.


Sanford wanted to breed them back to the yellow legged side but Mike insisted on breeding them one more time to the Kearny Brown Red side and produced them to fight and fight they did and won some derbies against everyone at that time. He wanted to breed a cock of his fathers breeding, which was the Kearny Whitehackle to the Sanford/Kkerany and Kerany bleedings.



From this breeding he had 17 black birds with white specs in them and over 40 brownred looking birds, he then crossed these back on the Brown Reds-having the Kearny White Hackle in them and Hatch blood. They came all dark fowl with green legs. Mike gave Lun Glimore 6 hens and one dark red cock to breed over them. This was the origin of the Gilmore Hatch fowl,-and the Ben Ford fowl.


These birds were given and sold to Gilmore from Mr. Hatch and Mike Kearny. It did have Mike Kearny's fathers White Hackle blood in them and still till this day they will come spangle or dark!


The next breeding that was the Brown Red and Kearny Out and Out became the 42 Hatch that JD Perry dominated with the same fowl from same people except did not have the Kearny White Hackle in them yet mostly yellow leg, and the black legs made em all come odd green legged. Believe it or not, I knew Colonel Givens for over 40 years and he got his fowl from Lun Gilmore in the early 40s and also got some of Mike Kearny Jr.'s White Hackles that were dark red and spangled, and fought the Kearny White Hackle crosses at Sunset and all over North Alabama.


Colonel Givens and Jimmy East were the handlers for John Ovilan Fowler from Huntsville Ala. When John Fowler died Jimmy kept his Hatch fowl and Colonel Givens kept the White Hackles. So the Gilmore's are 1/4 Kearny White Hackle-1/4 Hatch- 1/2 Brown Red bred back to the 1/2 Hatch 1/2 Brown Red and kept that way until he passed on. Still to this day all Gilmore's will throw a spangle every other year or so. It depends on how they are bred and where you got them. So there is your facts believe it or not, but if ya didn't get em from Gilmore they're yours.


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LLamado Tayo: Mahalaga ang kalidad ng manok

Napakahalaga ng kalidad ng manok

Congratulations kina Lito Garcia , Ramon Talavera at kamana Raul Ebeo . Nag score ang entry RT3 star of Looc ng total of 8 points sa bakbakan. Two wins, 1 loss sa elimination; 2 wins 1 loss sa semi final at 4 straight wins sa finals sa Araneta Coliseum noong Nov. 24. Dalawa sa mga stags na nanalo sa finals ay sa RB Sugbo sa Cebu inihanda at mga galing sa linyadang ponkan 828 namin ni kamana Raul. Nabanggit natin ito dito dahil ang mga ponkan natin ay tinagurian naming the poor man’s champion.
Ang mga RB Sugbo ponkans kasi ay sadyang pinalabas para sa mga karaniwang sabungero. Mura ngunit maasahan. Isa ito sa mga adhikain ng RB Sugbo ang makatulong sa masang sabungero. Ito rin ngayon ang adhikain ng Masang Nagmamanok (MANA). Sa nakaraang ilang taon maramirami narin mga ponkans ang napa sa kamay ng mga maliit at karaniwang sabungero na nagnanais na magkaroon ng manok na de kalidad sa abot kayang halaga. Palaban naman ang mga ito kahit sa mga malalaking derbies.
Ang sabong ay isa nang napakalaking industriya. Arawaraw, nababasa nasin sa mga babasahin, naririnig sa mga programa sa radyo at napapanood sa telebisyon ang napakaraming advertisements at commercials hinggil sa mga pakain at gamot para sa manok pangsabong. Kung pakinggan natin ang mga commercials, aakalain natin na ang pagpanalo ay nasa pakain o kaya sa gamot. Ngunit ang totoo mas malaking bagay ang kalidad at abilidad ng manok kaysa alin mang pakain o gamot.
Oo. Napakalaki ng maitutulong ng tamang pagkundisyon, angkop na pakain at bagay na gamot. Ngunit aanhin ang mga ito kung ang manok ay bulok? Napakamahal ng mga high quality gamefowl ngayon. Ang battlecocks ay nasa P8 libo hanggang P15 libo ang isa. Ang mga breeding materials ay aabot ng hanggang P45 thousand to P100 thousand ang trio. Paano ito kakayanin ng mga kapwa nating karaniwang nagmamanok.
Kaya hinangad ng RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology at ngayon ng MANA na makapamahagi ng sapat na kaalaman sa pagmamanok at ng mga de kalidad na manok na bagay gamitan ng angkop na kaalaman at bigyan ng masustansyang pakain at mga epektibong gamot. Ang RB Sugbo nagpalabas ng mga ponkan, isang lahi o linyada na binuo bilang bagong linyada sa paghalohalo ng sweater ni Doc Ayong Lorenzo, roundhead ni Lance de la Torre at green legged lemon 84 ni Paeng Araneta. Ang ponkan ay maari nang isabak sa malalaking derby ngunit abot kaya ang halaga nito.
Ngayon naman ang MANA ay may programa upang makapamahagi ng mga young breeding materials. Ito ang MANA gamefowl dispersal projects. Pamamagitan ng programang ito ang ating mga kamana ay makakakuha ng de kalidad na baby breeding sets (2-3 mos old)sa napakamurang halaga. Halagang mas mababa pa sa cost of feeds, supplement at farm maintenance. Subsidize po ito ng MANA.
Ang halaga ay lalo pang bababa at maari pang libre sa mga lalahok sa seminars kung sakaling matuloy ang pinagguusapan ng MANA at ng iilan sa mga kinatawan ng Bmeg. Nakahanda na po ang mga materyales na gagamitin natin upang maipalabas ang ating ipamamahagi sa dispersal projects. Inaantay nalang natin ang go signal ng Bmeg. Kasi ang dami ng ating gagamitin na materyales ay depende sa tulong ng Bmeg. Kausap po natin sa proyektong ito ngayon ay si Al Caballero ang kinatawan ng Bmeg sa Eastern at Central Visayas. Nakausap narin po ng MANA ang mga kinatawan ng Bmeg sa Manila at sa Mindanao. Napakalaking tulong po ito kung matuloy. Manatili lang nakatutok sa Larga at sa tilaok.blogspot.com.
Mana sa Bakbakan
Lima sa pitong entries ng mga kamana natin sa Cebu ay pumasok sa semi finals ng bakbakan 10-stags. Isa sa mga nakapasok ay sa Pasay natin isinabak sa semi finals noong Nov 20. Ang entreng ito ay ang RB Sugbo RTE Mana. Isang panalo lang at dalawang talo sa semis. Hindi nakapasok sa finals. Ang dalawang ponkan stags na nanalo sa finals sa entry RT3 Star of Looc na nabanggit natin sa unahan ay sana sa entry na RB Sugbo RTE MANA isasali kung ito’y nakapasok pa sa finals
Sa apat pa na entry ng mga kamana natin na sa Cebu nag se-semis. Iisa lang ang nakapasok sa finals sa Araneta ngayong Dec 3. Si kamana Jason Garces na may 5.5 points.


3 cocks sa Baras

Sa Dec 11 naman ay may benefit 3-cocks sa Baras , Rizal. Ang promoter po nito ay sina kamanang Gilbert and friends. Todo suporta po sa paderbeng ito ang MANA Rizal na pinamumunuan ni kamana Jun Santos. P150,000 ang guaranteed prize at P3,300 lang ang entry fee. P 3,300 din ang minimum bet.Sponsored po ito ng Bmeg Integra at Derby Ace.. Assisted by Boss Abet, Rizal Cyber Cockers at Masang Nagmamanok (MANA) Inc. Ang kikitain po nito ay mapupunta sa mga biktima ng typhoon ondoy. For more details text nyo lang si kamanang Jun Santos 0908-895-9623, o si kamana Gilbert mismo, 0927-289-8313.

Mga katanungan:
Kamana gud pm. May nakapagsabi kasi sa akin na di magandang gamitin brood cock ang wala pang panalo. Kahit ba na maganda at magaling? Totoo ba ito? Thanks po sa inyo. Mabuhay ang MANA.
Mabuhay ang MANA mabuhay ang karaniwang sabungero.!
Bakit naman po hindi pwede? Marami pong broodcocks na hindi pa nanalo. Lalo na yong mga pure at inbred na tinatawag na bred to breed. Hindi po inilalaban ang mga ito. Ipinalabas sila para gawing broodstock.
Tayo sa RB Sugbo ay naglalaban tayo ng iilan sa mga puro at inbred bilang pagsubok kung hindi pa nag break down ang linya. Mas maganda sa linyada ang pwedeng ilaban kahit puro at inbred.
Kung sa bagay may mga puro tayo na hindi inbred. Nagagawa natin ito pamamagitan ng paghiwalay ng isang linyada at ginawang maraming iba’t-ibang pamilya. Ito ang tinatawag natin na battle pures.

Kamana parang maganda ang nabasa kong sistema mong conditioning pyramid. Tanong ko lang ano ba ang pagkakaiba nito sa nakasanayan na 14 at 21 days na keep?)
Nasa basic principle ang malaking kaibahan kamana.
Sa fixed – day keep tulad ng 14 at 21-day keep ay ang gusto nating mangyari ang maging kundisyon ng manok sa nakatakdang araw ng laban. Maaring may pagkakataon na hindi ito ang mangyayari. May manok na lampas na sa peak pagdating ng araw na iyon at maari ring may manok na wala pa sa peak.
Kung sa bagay dapat naman may mga reserbang manok tayo bilang paghahanda sa ganitong pangyayari.
Sa sistema natin hindi ang nakatakdang araw ang masusunod kung di and aktwal na kundisyon ng manok. Hindi natin sinisikap na maging kundisyon ang manok sa nakatakdang araw. Bagkus, pinipili natin ang manok na sa palagay natin ay maganda ang kundisyon pagdating sa takdang araw.
Ang sa atin ay parang hagdanan. Ang lahat ng manok ay dadaan sa unang baitang, ang “foundation period” kung kailan inaayos natin ang mga kakulangan ng manok sa pisikal, mental at nutrisyunal na aspeto. Inaayos muna natin ang pangagatawan, ang kundiyon ng mga kalamnan at ang focus ng manok sa pakikipaglaban. Sa puntong ito pinaiiral natin ang tibay at lakas ng manok.
Walang takdang bilang ng araw sa pagpananatili ng manok sa stage na ito. Kung sa ibang pamamaraan, kalendaryo ang nagdidekta, sa atin, ang aktwal na kundisyon ng manok ang makapagsasabi kung ang manok ay kailangan pang manatili sa baitang na ito o aakyat na sa susunod.
Ang pangalawang baitang ay ang “battle-ready stage.” Dito ang pakain at pagsasanay ay nakatuon sa pagpairal ng bilis, liksi, at ang kakayahang makahugot ng quick energy na kakailanganin sa laban. Dito ang mga manok ay para nang boy scout na laging handa. Kung may nalalapit na laban, pagpipilian natin ang mga boy scout kung alinalin ang mga pinakahanda. Ang mga ito ang iakyat sa susunod na baitang, ang “peaking stage.”
Ang peaking phase ay ang huling isang linggo bago ang laban. Kasunod nito ay ang pang apat na stage, ang”pagpatuktok” o “pointing.” Ito ay sa araw ng laban.
Sa sistemang ito ang kundisyon ng manok ang masusunod hindi ang bilang ng araw. Ang sistema nating ito ang tinatawag natin na “conditioning pyramid.”
Isa ito sa mga kabanata ng “Manwal sa Makabagong Pamamaraan sa Pagpili at Pagkundisyon” na Inihanda ng RB Sugbo para sa MANA.
Gameness, cutting, fighting ability. Sa mga katangian sa pagkipaglaban ano ang pinakamahalaga kamana? More power.
Killing is the name of the game. Kaya ang pinakamahalagang katangian ng manok sa pakikipaglaban ay ang kakayahan nitong pumatay.
Kagalingan sa pagpaa. Cutting ability sa Inglis.
Ang kagalingan sa pagpaa ay matitiyak lang sa panahon ng tunay na laban sa sabungan. Kahit ang mga dalubhasa ay hindi makapagsalita ng tapos kung sa bitaw lang ibatay ang pagpahalaga sa kagalingan sa kating.
Ganoon pa man, may mga sapat na batayan tulad ng sumusunod:
1. Malayo ang abot ng palo. Todo stretch and paa at hita kung pumalo at malayo ang katawan. Feet out, head back.
2. Mabilis at marami ang palo.
3. May diin at malakas magpatama.
Ngunit hanggang mailaban natin ang manok na may tari, di natin matitiyak kung
ito nga ay talagang magaling sa kating.
Saan ba nakukuha ang kagalingang pumatay?
Una ang katangiang ito ay nasa genes. Nasa lahi o bloodline. May mga linyada na likas na magagaling mag-cut. Kaya makakatulong kung alamin natin ang rekord ng linyada ng mga manok na pinagpipilian natin. Dahil ang kagalingan sa pagpaa ay nasa linyada.
Ang kating ay naaapektahan din ng pisikal at mental na kundisyon ng manok. Ang manok na sobra ang taba o bigat ng timbang, ganoon man ang sobrang payat ,ay di maaasahan na magaling pumatay. Ganoon din kung ang manok ay may ibang nasa isip at hindi ang pagpatay sa kalaban.
Dapat ay tama ang pangangatawan at buo ang konsentrasyon ng manok sa laban.
Ang katangiang ito at ang iba pang kanaisnais sa isang manok panlaban, ay tinalakay natin ng husto sa “Manwal sa Makabagong Pamamaraan sa Pagpili at Pagkundisyon.”
(Magabang sa mga karagdagang kaalaman dito sa Larga o magpunta sa tilaok.blogspot.com at sa website ng RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology: rbsugbo.gamefarmdirectory.com)

LLamado Tayo: Benefit 3 cocks sa Baras

Llamado Tayo
Benefit 3-cocks sa Baras
WARNING!!!!!
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You may instead email kamana1015@yahoo.com. All MANA members who have emailed their membership and request to said account please renew your membership by emailing your name, address and tel no. to kamana1015@yahoo.com. Thanks.


Oo mga kamana, beware po. Na hacked po ang yahoo account ni kamana Jose Claudio na siya nating ginagamit na main account ng Masang Nagmamanok (MANA) sa internet. Nawala po ang mga pangalan at address ng mga kamana na nag parehistro pamamagitan ng account na ito. Kung makatanggap po kayo ng mga mensahe galing sa mba1220bemin@yahoo.com ipagsawalang bahala nyo na lang. Wag na ring magpadala ng mensahe sa nasabing email ad. Sa halip magparehistro muli o kaya magpadala ng mensahe sa kamana1015@yahoo.com na lang.
Para sa mga impormasyon at balilita sa MANA at sa sabong patuloy lang tayong magbasa ng Larga at magpunta sa tilaok.blogspot.com


Mana sa Bakbakan
Sa pagsulat natin sa pitak na ito, lima sa pitong entries ng mga kamana natin sa Cebu ay pumasok sa semi finals ng bakbakan 10-stags. Isa sa mga nakapasok ay sa Pasay natin isasabak sa semi finals sa Nov 20. Ang entreng ito ay ang RB Sugbo RTE Mana. Ang apat pa na entry ay sa Cebu mag se-semis. Sa Talisay Tourist Sports Complex, ang home of the CVBA, ang asosasyon na kinabibilangan natin.
Sa Talisay Tourist Sports Complex din gaganapin ang NFGB Presidents’ Cup. Ito ang isa sa mga pinakamalaking cocking event na magaganap sa Cebu sa taong ito. Maglabanlaban dito ang mga Gamefowl Breeders Association na kabilang sa National Federation of Gamefowl Breeders (NFGB). Bawat GBA ay maglalaban ng sampung stags. Inaanyayahan natin ang lahat na taga Cebu na manood. Pambihirang pagkakataon ito. Sa December 12 po ito.
Di nato ni sipyaton sa pagtanaw. Higayon ni nato nga makita ang mga stags gikan sa nagkalainlaing lugar sa Pilipinas sama sa Panay, Negros, Mindanao, Luzon ug Manila. Ug ang ato pong kaugalingong stags diri sa Sugbo.


3 cocks sa Baras

Sa Dec 11 naman ay may benefit 3-cocks sa Baras , Rizal. Ang promoter po nito ay sina kamanang Gilbert and friends. Todo suporta po sa paderbeng ito ang MANA Rizal na pinamumunuan ni kamana Jun Santos. P150,000 ang guaranteed prize at P3,300 lang ang entry fee. P 3,300 din ang minimum bet.Sponsored po ito ng Bmeg Integra at Derby Ace.. Assisted by Boss Abet, Rizal Cyber Cockers at Masang Nagmamanok (MANA) Inc. Ang kikitain po nito ay mapupunta sa mga biktima ng typhoon ondoy. For more details text nyo lang si kamanang Jun Santos 0908-895-9623, o si kamana Gilbert mismo, 0927-289-8313.

Samantala, pinagbibigay alam ni kamana Loreto Casalhay ng Sampaloc chapter na sa Dec. 5 na ang kanilang feeding activity ng mga street children sa Tondo, Manila. Sabi ni kamana Loreto kung sino mang gustong sumama sa pagpapakain na ito ay kumontak lang sa kanya, 09182713548. Mayroong sasakyan daw na magagamit sa mga kamana na sasama. Proyekto ito ng MANA Luzon.
Kamana Loreto napakaganda ng naisip nyong yan. Palagi mo lang akong i-update sa mga kaganapan natin dyan.





Walang gamot na madyik
Kamana gud am. Ano po ba ang pagpalakas ng palo ng manok at pagpapabilis nito? At, ano po ang magandang iturok o di kaya isubo na tableta para tumibay at lumakas ang manok?Maski patay na tumutuka pa rin at pumapalo.
Nako kamana, wala po yan.
Wala tayong maibibigay upang ang bulok na manok ay maging magaling. Kung walang kakayahan ang manok, wala tayong magagawa.
Ngunit kung ang manok ay may likas na kakayahan maaari natin itong pairalin o paigtingin pamamagitan ng mahusay na pag-aalaga, wastong pagpapakain, at angkop na kapaligiran. Pamamagitan ng mga ito ay maaabot ng mga manok ang kanilang buong potensyal.
Ang mga katangian at kakayahan ay naitakda na ng maingat na pagpapalahi. Kung wala ang mga ito sa manok wala nang magagawa ang ano mang galing sa pagkundisyon.
Ang pagpapalahi ang nagbibigay ng kahusayan at iba pang katangian ng manok tulad ng cutting ability; tapang, tibay at lakas; at, talino, liksi at bilis.
Nasa manok na ang kagalingan. Ingatan lang natin na ito ay mapanatili o mapairal.
Walang gamot o pakain na mistulang magic na makapagbibigay ng galing, na higit sa antas na itinakda ng pagpapalahi.
. Hindi natin kailan man matuturuan ang manok kung paano lumaban. Hindi matuturuan ang manok na dapat ay umangat siya o mag-abang o kayay paluin ang kalaban kaagad pagdating sa ibaba.
Ang mga ito ay likas na nasa manok dahil ang mga ito ay nasa genes at wala sa training. Ang magagawa lang natin ay ang panatilihin o kayay bahagyang paigtingin ang mga kakayahang ito.
May mga sabungero na sa hangarin na maging “super” ang kanilang mga panabong ay binabatak ito ng husto sa training. Ang iba naman ay binibigyan ng steroids, hormones, stimulants at kung anu-anong uri ng artipisyal na conditioning aids.
Subalit walang uri ng training o druga na makapagpagaling sa isang mahinang manok. Sa halip, ang sobrang training at pagbigay ng druga ay maaari pang makasama sa sana’y isang magaling na manok.
Sa mahabang panahon ng aking pagmamanok, pagmamasid, pag-aaral, at pagtatanung-tanong, ay may nabuo akong prinsipyo sa paghahanda ng manok.
Sa palagay ko hindi dapat batakin ang manok . Simpleng ehersisyo at simpleng pakain ay sapat na basta husto at sapat ang abilidad at kalidad ng manok.
Rotation lang, pasampisampi, palakad at pailaw. Ang mga iyan ay sapat na mga kamana. Ang gamot natin ay multivitamins lang kung malayo pa ang laban. Tapos me mga blood conditioners at energy boosters tayo sa malapit na ang laban.
Kung may kopya kayo ng Manwal ng Mana sa Makabagong Pamamaraan sa Pagpili at Pagkundisyon basahin nyo ang kabanata hinggil dito. Kung may gusto kayong linawin pa, magtext kayo sa numero na nakalagay sa manwal para mas madali nating masagot.
Sa pasabong nina kamana Gani Dominguez sa Arcontica Coliseum sa darating na Dec. 15, may mga libreng kopya ng Manwal na ipamimigay natin sa mga lalahok. Maari rin kayong mag order P300 lang/copy magtext sa 09279954876 o mag email sa kamana1015@yahoo.com. Makakahingi kayo ng libreng file ng manwal at ng iba pang babasahin ng RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology pamamagitan sa pagpunta sa tilaok.blogspot.com at i-click lang ang free publication. Magrequest lang kayo at i-email namin ang kopya ng babasahin na nais nyo.
Available for free ang Manwal ng Mana sa Makabagong Pamamaraan ng Pagpili at Pagkundisyon (condensed version); Manwal ng Mana sa Praktikal na Pagpapalahi; Paghanda ng Stag; Power Pointing; at ang Legend of the Philippine Lemon. Makakatulong po sa inyong pagmamanok ang mga babasahing ito.

Malimit po ba kayong magbitaw kamana? Gaano kalimit?
Oo kamana. Sa foundation period, kung kailan inaayos natin hindi lang ang pangangatawan ng manok kung di pati na rin ang kakayahang mental nito, may mga pagkakataon na araw-araw natin binibitaw ang manok. Ito kung kulang sa pokus sa laban ang naturang manok. Kung ok lang ang pokus ng manok dalawang beses isang linggo natin binibitaw sa foundation stage.
Sa battle ready stage at least isang beses isang linggo ang bitaw natin. Ang foundation at battle-ready ay mga baitang sa ating conditioning pyramid na nilalaman ng ating manwal.
Para sa akin ang sparring o bitaw ay isang maganda at natural na ehersisyo. Ang totoo ito lang ang tanging training na kung saan malayang ginagawa ng manok ang kanilang gagawin sa aktwal na laban.
Kaya lang, dapat ding mag-iingat sa pagbibitaw. Dahil talagang magbubugbugan ang dalawang manok kapag ibinibitaw, kaya maaaring masaktan ang alin man sa mga ito.
Ganito ang ginagawa natin sa pagbibitaw:
Sa unang round ay binibitaw ang dalawang manok sa layo na apat na talampakan lang o four feet. Agad magpapaluan ang dalawang manok. Hanggang dalawang hatawan.
Pagkatapos ay binibitaw natin ang dalawa para sa ikalawang round. Sa ikalawang pagkakataon ay malayo na ang distansya. Hinahayaan natin silang magpaluan ng 4 hanggang 6 na beses bago paghihiwalayin.Ngunit tandaan na agad paghiwalayin ang mga manok pag isa sa kanila ay makapag-billhold.

Sir gud am. Nabasa ko sa manwal na ang atay ng baka ay maigeng ipakain. Cook ba o fresh? Pwede rin bang refrigerated?
Ganito gawin mo kamana, bili ka ng fresh tapos banlian mo ng mainit na tubig. Tapos hiwain ng kasing liit ng cracked corn ang piraso. Ibigay isang kutsara para sa apat o limang manok na inihanda. Ang atay ng baka ay may mataas na taglay na protena at mas mababa ang fats nito kaysa karne ng baka. Taglay din ng atay ang b complex vitamins at iron na kailangan sa pagkundisyon sa dugo ng manok. Sa pakain sa umaga lang natin ibigay dalawa o tatlong beses isang linggo okey na.

MANALU sets feeding of street children

The Masang Nagmamanok- Luzon (MANALU) is set to undertake a feeding activity of street children in Tondo Manila. This was learned from Kamana Jeff Urbi and Loreto Casalhay, the primemovers of MANALU.

The activity is set for December 5. MANA Inc. national coordinator Kamana Rey Bajenting said the project is laudable and congratulates MANALU for its efficient handling of the regular MANA monthly pasabong in Pasay Cockpit.The monthly pasabong is the source of funding for the feeding project.

The monthly pasabong of MANA in Pasay Cockpit, in Pasay City Metro Manila is held every 3rd Wednesday of the month.The next edition will be on Nov. 18. As usual it will be a one-cock ulutan affair.

Meanwhile, MANA Cavite will be holding its second pasabong on December. The event will be held at the Arcontica Coloseum in Dasmarinas, Cavite.

Gamefowl's natural biorhythm: A study by RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology

This study was made between December 2004 and March 2005.It was published in sabong.net on April 24, 2005. It triggered a very interesting discussion. The post itself was translated in Spanish and publish in Spanish gamefowl literature.





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Experiment confirms cocks have natural bio rhythm
If left alone, under normal conditions, gamefowl have natural bio rhythm that guides their individual fighting performances.

This was recently confirmed by an experiment we have conducted.

For three months, from December to early March, this year, RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology conducted a study involving 20 fowl picked at random.

They were of different bloodlines and crosses and some were bullstags others were cocks.

The birds were sparred every four days and their respective performances were charted.

After 24 sparring sessions the chart showed a clear correlation between the performance of certain birds with that of the lunar cycle.

It showed that fowls' performances are guided by a cycle of four phases consisting of 7 days each.

Coincidence or whatever, the lunar cycle is also of 4 phases of 7 days each.

However, contrary to superstitious belief, there was no correlation between particular plumage or leg color with any particular phase of the lunar cycle.

For example some yellow legged fowl fought well on first quarters while others fought well during other phases of the moon. This was also true to the green leggeds, the greys and the black plumage.

Subsequent experiments have been or will be conducted to establish the extent of the moon's influence on gamebirds and whether this natural bio rhythm could be altered to enable us to time the best performance for a scheduled day of fight.

RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology breeds and sells fowl. It is also actively into gamefowl research and study in search for new technology especially in the field of game fowl conditioning and pointing.

It has its main gamefowl farms in Carmen, Bohol and Argao, Cebu; a seed fowl breeding station in Naga, Cebu and its conditioning camp in Casili Hills, Mandaue city, all in the Philippines.






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Old April 26th, 2005, 09:31 AM #2
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Hello sir Rey...i want to congratulate you for you efforts and interesting topic...I am interested on your research on Lunar cycles affecting our fowls performance..please elaborate more on how it was recorded or how it was studied and concluded...I want to understand the 7 phases...please elaborate more if its ok with you sir...for us in this site to give our comments...tnx alot.

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Old April 26th, 2005, 10:14 AM #3
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rbsugbo
Sir,

i want to know if your study, research, experiment conducted is already conducted by others or your the only first to do this?
it is very appreciated to me, to us, to know this.,
that every fowl has its own bio rythm towards the lunar in their performance in figthing?
this is very helpful to us know..
like i've said, and ariel say..me too i am interested to know,
what is the 4 phases of 7 days each..if it is okay to you? can you shared to us what is that? or please kindly PM to me hehehe

respectfully,
roland


Ariel, Roland,

Thanks. Of course I welcome comments.

My experiment tend to show that individual cocks have individual biorhythm, regardless of plumage and leg color. It did not support the theory or superstition that a certain leg color will perform best on a certain phase of the lunar cycle.
The lunar cycle are the new moon, 1st quarter, full moon, and last quarter.

My experiment showed that 13 of the 20 cocks, or 65% regardless of plumage and leg color and regardless of the phase of the moon, experienced a rising performance for a period of two weeks and then a falling performance in the next two weeks. Four showed erratic chart in their performance. And only three or 15% consistently perform well throughout the 24 sparring sessions, with only slight variations in their performance which could be attributted to factors other than biorhythm.

The methodology was simple. We picked 20 fowl of different crosses and ages. All however, were in good physical conditions.

They were first subjected to metabolism check to determine which ones have high metabolic rate and which ones have low metabolism.

This is important in order to adjust their respective diets, because the work out routine of all the birds were the same. Just our plain rotation method. otherwise if given uniform diet, the ones with low metabolic rate would tend to get heavier and it might be a factor in the performance registry.

Then we sparred them every 4 days and recorded their respective performance.

Roland, as to your question whether this has been conducted by others, I really would not know. However, for sure, the cockers of the old times had observed this, even without the benefit of a formal experiment because i heard my grandfather before saying that on this particular Sunday this cock was unbeatable.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 03:11 PM #5


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Someone asked whether a similar study has been done and the answer is, "yes". A friend of mine showed me a chart of the lunar cycle and its relation to the feather and leg color of the rooster. The chart was copied out of the encyclopedia. As such, someone did some sort of controlled study similar to the one presented here.

I am a beginner and I hear different responses to the following questions:
1. How many times should you feed the gamecocks?
2. Does overnight lighting help the cocks? Will this affect their sleep and rest time?
3. Does one need to provide a noise medium to make the cocks assimilate to the noise in the arena?

I would love to hear from anyone.

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Old April 28th, 2005, 11:06 AM #6
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Jbermudes,

1. The usual practice is two. plus snack at noon if you may. That is what we also do for the cocks we sell. It is different for the cocks that we ourselves fight.
2.Yes. Somehow light has some effect on the hormones of the chickens. Layers need more daylight to lay more eggs. The light on gamecocks is more than training them to be used to lights at the pit. Longer daylight has positive effect on fighting cocks conditioned for fight. But up to a certain limit. Overnight light is not advisable.
3. Many do. But it is really useless at the very least, and possibly even harmful. Well, that was what our experiments on stress management showed.
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Old April 28th, 2005, 05:13 PM #7


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rbsugbo,


very nice topic you open up here.

To be honest with you this is my observation with gamebirds, whether you train them or not, or do some pointing for as long as you provide proper nutrition and feed properly you will observe that birds will achieve peak health by itself. hence if you are the type of cocker that fights in hacks, then your function is to observe, which birds are peaking up. You will observe their movements as spanking and they fly up and down the teepee every now and then.

The problem is when your join derbies and you want all your birds to move at the same level come fight day, then that is where conditioning aids and preparations come into the picture.


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Swallow,

Yes. You are right. Old time cockers made a killing by just observing the natural peaking of their birds.

And, as far as derbies are concerned, we always pick the cocks that we believe will perform best on the scheduled day of fight based on their chart.

Also we will try to do something to increase the probability of their performing well, by what we call as "zeroing their energy."

In theory based on the experiment it is supposed to be simple. All we have to do is put the cock at the lowest energy level some 14 days or two weeks before the fight. Then it is supposed to fight best on fight day.

In practice thought, you have to contend with the cocks' individual capability to cope with the initial stress as result of putting them at low energy level.

We solved this problem by conditioning more cocks than necessary to give allowance to this factor.

The bottom line still is the quality of the cocks. yet, it pays to pay attention to conditioning details.

Regards,


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Old May 7th, 2005, 02:37 PM #9
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UPDATE :

We are planning to repeat the experiment. This time using the stags that we are going to fight come the stag season.

And to ensure a more conclusive result, we will increase the sampling from 20 to 50 heads.


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Old May 7th, 2005, 08:08 PM #10
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very interesting topic


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Old May 9th, 2005, 11:08 AM #11
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Talking just a reader!!!
nice topic!!!


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Old May 9th, 2005, 12:54 PM #12
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Do we have to conclude that when you choose birds for a derby and you use a 21 day keep or something close to it. That you should choose the reg. sparrers at the start of the keep and expect that they would peak at fight day??? Cause if we choose good sparrers already which are cocks or stags that are already at its peak, they might start going down to fight day??



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Gamecock 96,

Yes. Something like that Al.

In fact that is our purpose of putting the cock at low energy level at the start of the keep. In this manner the cock is expected to gradually peak in time for the fight.
And, you can only keep a cock at its peak for a certain period. After this there will be no other way for it to go but down. This stage is called "over the hill."
Regards,

Buhawi, El Guapito,

Thanks for your interest in this topic.


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Old May 10th, 2005, 07:08 PM #14
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Thanks Rey,
Im also interested on how your study progresses. Pls keep us all updated.

Al



Old May 12th, 2005, 12:56 AM #15
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Al,

Yes, I will keep you and everybody else posted.


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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:18 AM #16
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very interesting topic Rey.i'm just wondering,you mentioned you sparred the fowls every 4 days,could it be that they were soar that's why their performances declined?i noticed that too with some fowls.when you pick and spar a rooster from a cord given he was left there for quite sometime he delivers crisp strong blows.then you put him on a keep that requires training and after a week or two when sparred again his performance deteriorates.but given enough time to rest he comes back fighting good.some fowls do good when worked hard and some are just better to be left alone.


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Old May 12th, 2005, 12:04 PM #17
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ive done this before on a much smaller scale...i tested using a cock at a time...i sparred every Sunday...

my degree of error is greater than RBSUGBO because I held every 7th day (Sunday) constant

i held Sunday constant thinking that there must be a particular Sunday where the cock will perform much better than during other Sundays.

i used a total of 3 cocks...2 wins 1 loss using this method...

1 cock has a peak Sunday cycle of 3 weeks...one had 4 weeks...the third sparred well every Sunday...

the one with the 4 weeks cycle lost his match during the drag..

test duration: 3 months



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Very informative . . . I like this thread
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Old May 15th, 2005, 12:05 PM #19
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Doongan,

We sparred the cocks every four days in order for us to observe any change in the cock's performance within a week's time. If we sparred them every week instead, there was this possibility that we could "skip a phase.' Meaning there might be some data in the cock's performance that we could not register in the chart. I think, this point was recognized by Sugbo slasher in his post saying that his " degree of error is greater than RB Sugbo's because I held (sparring) every 7 days."

Also our sparring sessions were short. In fact when we condition cocks for fighting, there is a phase during which, we spar them almost every day.
To us, proper sparring is good training. Sparring is the only exercise that approximates actual combat. But of course, one has to do it properly.

Sugbo slasher,

Although as you said your experiment was on a lesser scale, the result was more or less the same.
Thanks, for the additional data bai.
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Old May 16th, 2005, 03:06 AM #20
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Low energy
How do you put a fighting cock on "low energy" level. I saw cocks that are on high energy level for a long time, but come showtime they just short of saying just gave their fight away. They don't perform as well when they were in sparring session...
The best thread of thought on this column... thank you all for the never selfish comments... Let's keep the Philippine Sabong the best in the world forever.....
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Old May 17th, 2005, 01:01 AM #21
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rey, i'm just curios.most of the cocks fought well the first 2 weeks and started falling down the next two weeks.were they able to come back to their peak after that?and what could have happen if you set aside one group of cocks(group B)and spar them once the other group(group A) starts to deteriorate.do you think group B would outperform group A?or would they lose their peak too gven they were not sparred the first two weeks like group A?your inputs are highly appreciated rey as i find this very interesting to increase our W's.thanks.
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Old May 17th, 2005, 04:04 AM #22
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temperature in and out and humidity rate play important role and affect their rate of metabolism.it will affect the way they rest and the way they load energy.

patrick antonio mentioned once the method of conditioning using aircon.they say they are hard to beat.why?

see above:lol: or none of the above:lol:
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Old May 17th, 2005, 05:46 PM #23
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Budoy,
Our method of putting cocks at low energy is a combination of heavy workout, fasting, deworming and delousing.
The idea is to put the cocks at low energy so they have no other way to go, but up as we get closer to fight day.

Doongan,

Yes, the cocks concerned started peaking again after the down phase. It was like a cycle of 14 days down phase and 14 days up phase.

Buhawi,
If PA said cocks in airconditioned cockhouses are hard to beat, the most obvious reason may be, because under controlled environment the birds are not subjected to stress caused by changes in temperature and humidity. There may be other reasons too that have something to do with the cocks proper metabolism and right body temperature.
However, aircon technology is very tricky. For one air conditioner is dehumidifier. Your birds tend to get over dry. there are also other pitfalls such as the difference between the inside and outside temperature and humidity.
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Old May 17th, 2005, 06:48 PM #24
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rbsugbo,
sir what is faulty about air conditioner as a dehumidifier? isn't it that we want our cocks to be less dry come fight day? of course we cannot let our fighters to go over dry, that is why we limber tham so they can drink from time to time. my point is airconditioner may be a good solution for us to have a better control to our cock's moiisture body content come fight hour..
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Old May 17th, 2005, 08:24 PM #25
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a dehumidifier removes moisture from the air by cooling the moisture and condensing it.

i think that preparation must involve taking the temperature of the pit to adjust the moisture control of the fowl. if air-conditioned fowls are fought on a pit whose temperature is higher, the natural reaction is to sweat..no problem. but since the temperature change is abrupt, the sweating will be accelerated too to compensate...now this is where the problems start...

it just a matter of acclimization...it should not be done abruptly

but if the airconditioned room's temperature/humidity is the same as the pit...oh well...when the scabbard drops..the BS ends...hehehe
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Old May 18th, 2005, 04:17 PM #26
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and if i may add, it is more stressfull for the cocks to be in a cockhouse with a hot and humid surroundings than inside a finely adjusted air-conditioned room. imagine that they have to stay inside their cockhouse from morning till night and until the hour of their fight. i think they will be more well rested inside an airconed room than otherwise.
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Old May 22nd, 2005, 04:42 PM #27
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Dulag,

Yes I agree with you.

There are two schools of thought here involving the use of air-conditioned or non-air conditioned cockhouse. Both with valid points.
However, I personally prefer to use the air-conditioned one whenever possible.
But, again, as I have said, there are pitfalls or traps that one must be wary of. One of these is the possibility of your cock getting over dry. Another is when and if there is a wide difference between the reading of the inside temp/humidity and that of the outside temp/humidity.
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Old June 4th, 2005, 07:27 PM #28
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Gentlemen,

By the way anyone of you who likes to learn the details of air con technology as applied to cockfighting may read an article by our air con expert Eng. Norbin Imbong published in Pit Games No. 8. Page 37. "The ultimate conitioning."
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Old June 8th, 2005, 09:43 PM #29
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RB Sugbo,

What happened to the 20 cocks in the program? Fought em yet?
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Old June 14th, 2005, 10:22 AM #30
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For those who are interested in some update;

First of all, we did not sell any of the 20 cocks that were part of the experiment.
We kept them for ourselves for continuous observation.
We set aside the four that had eratic performance on the chart (please see previous post).
Of the remaining 16 cocks 13 were fought already. 9 won, 4 lost for a very high winning percentage of more than 70.
However, if we further break down the average in relation with the quality of the opponent, the result was this:
Six were fought in two 3-cock derbies. 5 won, 1 lost. The other seven were fought in a four cock and a five-cock derby. 4 won, 3 lost.
All the cocks were fought on dates that we perceived, based on the experiment, that they would perform well. Most of them performed as expected.
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Probiotics for chickens

Using Probiotics for Your Chickens
by K.J. Theodore of www.shagbarkbantams.com

What the heck are probiotics??

PROBIOTICS are a dietary supplement that increase the population of the 'good' bacteria (micro flora), which are needed in the intestinal tract in order to process food properly. The use of probiotics as a daily supplement has become a popular routine in the commercial poultry industry, particularly following antibiotic treatment.
Good bacteria also help fight off the bad bacteria that passes through the system, before it has a chance to take hold. Introducing probiotics into the digestive system everyday to ward off bacterial infection is known as 'selective exclusion'.
Selective exclusion is a very good way to keep your birds healthy and disease resistant throughout their life. It’s good to use probiotics in my own flock, along with a vitamin and mineral supplement on a daily basis. I also use probiotics before, during, and after both showing and breeding. For showing, the probiotics help the birds ward off most illnesses they could become exposed to different environment. For breeding, one benefit is the tendency of the laying hens to drink more water, when the water is treated with flavored probiotics. Both breeding and showing are very stressful times in your birds' lives, and the vulnerability to disease increases during those times. The use of probiotics helps to reduce that vulnerability.
During times of stress or the use of antibacterials (antibiotics), hormonal changes can occur, causing the pH of the small intestine to rise. This allows existing bad bacteria to take a foothold in the lining of the intestine because of the deterioration of the protective mucus lining. Because of this, the 'villi' (little fingers), which normally exist in the small intestine, can be lost. Villi slow the movement of food as it passes through so that nutrients can be absorbed through the intestinal wall. The term 'going light' can occur when villi are lost. Increasing good gut bacteria through the use of probiotics will compete against the bad bacteria, change the pH environment, allow nutrient absorption, and prevent infection. Probiotic treatment has also shown an ability to stimulate appetite - a valuable thing when trying to maintain the weight of an ailing bird.
If you're not inclined to use probiotics on a daily basis, then at least consider their use immediately following antibiotic treatment. When your bird is treated with antibiotics, all bacteria are killed off - good and bad. Treating with probiotics immediately after the use of antibiotics, help to repopulate the gut with the good bacteria. In many cases, this can ward off a secondary infection, such as E Coli. E. Coli has been shown to exist in virtually all manure samples, but only becomes a problem when the digestive environment is friendly to its reproduction.


Probiotics help prevent coccidiosis
Avian coccidiosis plagues poultry producers large and small costing an estimated $1.2 billion in losses every year. The pesky disease is caused by infection with the avian parasite Eimeria maxima. And since this parasite rapidly evolves to stay at least a half a step ahead of vaccines, scientists at the Agricultural Research Service (ARS) have embarked on a quest to fight the disease through boosting chicken immune systems. This is a refreshing development in our “throw the next drug at it” culture where we expect to substitute chemistry for the much harder work of promoting animal health more holistically.
According to a recent ARS report, scientists discovered that chickens reared in confinement shed many fewer oocytes (eggs) of Eimeria maxima when they were fed ground green tea for two weeks before they were challenged with the parasite in question. Similar results were discovered when Pediococcus-based probiotics and yeast-based probiotics were in the feed. What’s significant about these findings is that they suggest that probiotics can significantly reduce the spread of coccidiosis through the flock. Incidentally, these tea and other probiotic eating chickens gained more weight and had increased levels of immune-boosting cytokines in their systems than the control group too.
Hops, plum powder, safflower and a few other phytonutrients have also been shown to boost chicken immune systems and are linked to reduced levels of Salmonella infection and even reduced incidence of some kinds of chicken tumor growth. It feels like we’re reinventing the wheel by looking beyond the “magic bullet” approach to animal health and now admitting that dietary diversity is important after all. Who would have thought that trying to create an artificial chicken ration to feed chickens in crowded conditions might not be the best way to prevent disease?
Perhaps all those free-range chicken folks are on to something, but even if you can’t raise your birds on grass, you can at the very least bring a variety of plant material to them … and you can add a little green tea or plum powder to their ration to boot.



Food Supplements that Fortify Fowl
Poultry infected with the parasite Eimeria maxima usually develop avian coccidiosis, a disease estimated to cost producers globally more than $1.2 billion every year. So Agricultural Research Service (ARS) immunologist Hyun Lillehoj has been working with colleagues in ARS and around the world to find dietary supplements that strengthen the poultry immune system.
Lillehoj, at the ARS Animal Parasitic Diseases Laboratory in Beltsville, Md., cooperated on the research with scientists at South Korea's Gyeongsang National University College of Veterinary Medicine.
The researchers found that chickens that consumed ground green tea for two weeks prior to parasitic infection produced significantly fewer fecal E. maxima oocysts than the control group. This finding could help reduce the spread of infection in poultry houses.
Working with ARS visiting molecular biologist Sung-Hyen Lee and Imagilin Technology LLC, in Frederick, Md., Lillehoj evaluated the effects of adding commercial probiotics to poultry diets. Probiotics are health-promoting dietary supplements derived from live bacteria or yeasts.
Chickens eating diets supplemented with Pediococcus-based probiotics reduced their oocyte production, increased the production of cytokines essential for a strong immune response, and experienced improved weight gain.
Poultry immunities got a similar boost from a combination of Pediococcus and a yeast-based commercial probiotic product. Chickens that consumed a probiotic combination of lactic acid bacterium and yeasts also showed a significant antibody response to parasites.
Lillehoj, Lee, and other colleagues from South Korea collaborated with scientists at the Rural Development Administration—South Korea's national agricultural research organization—to see if other phytonutrients might also be beneficial. They found that plum powder supplements stimulated spleen immune cell production and killed tumor cells. Infected poultry fed with the supplement also gained weight and reduced parasite shedding. Supplements of safflower, which have been used by traditional Chinese practitioners for thousands of years, were found to be similarly beneficial.
Read more about this research in the May/June 2009 issue of Agricultural Research magazine.
ARS is the principal intramural scientific research agency of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
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Probiotics Help Produce Safer, Healthier Chickens, Researchers Discover
December 12, 2006 - News Release
Giving chickens probiotics – dietary supplements that contain live beneficial bacteria – stimulates their immune system and reduces the Salmonella bacteria in their gut by more than 99 per cent, a University of Guelph professor and an Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada food researcher have found.
“We looked at the immune-enhancing ability of the probiotic and, lo and behold, the probiotic actually seems to be quite an immune stimulator,” said Shayan Sharif, a pathobiology professor in the Ontario Veterinary College, who worked in collaboration with James Chambers of Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada. Their research was recently published in Clinical and Vaccine Immunology.
This means chickens treated with probiotics early in life are able to mount higher immune responses and, as a result, may be better protected against disease-causing microbes, said Sharif. “After looking at the antibodies in the intestine and blood of the chickens, we found that the antibodies were more than twice as high in chickens treated with probiotics.
The researchers also looked at two kinds of Salmonella that are most prevalent in Canada and found that some probiotics reduce, to less than one per cent, the level of colonization of Salmonella in the chicken gut. The gut contents sometimes contaminate carcasses, depending on how the meat is processed, which puts consumers at risk of getting sick, said Sharif. “Reducing Salmonella in the chickens’ digestive tract could lead to more Salmonella-free chicken products on store shelves.”
In the studies, one-day-old chicks were treated with probiotics and one day later were given Salmonella bacteria. The immune status and Salmonella bacterial load in the chicks was examined at various intervals and the positive results surfaced quickly, said Sharif.
Sharif and Chambers’ study looked at a repertoire of probiotics alone and in combination with prebiotics (food substances that promote the growth of beneficial bacteria in the intestines). “We also found that the combination of prebiotics and probiotics could reduce the existence of bad bacteria − those that are harmful for humans − in the chicken gut substantially,” said Sharif.
“There’s a hope that probiotics could actually work as a replacement for antibiotics, or at least be used to work in a complementary fashion with antibiotics,” he said. Probiotics are available from veterinary pharmaceutical suppliers and are fairly inexpensive. The overuse of antibiotics in chickens is a concern that has already caused European countries to place restrictions on prophylactic antibiotic use within their poultry industry.

“If the same restrictions were enforced here, it would cause problems in the poultry industry, so it would be great if we could come up with a better system using probiotics to work hand-in-hand with antibiotics,” said Sharif.

Llamado Tayo: Sugbo Agro

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Ikinagagalak po natin ang pagbigay alam sa inyo ng pagbuo ng Sugbo Agro Ventures Inc., isang stock corporation. Kabilang sa mga bahagi nito ay ang RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology at ang RB Sugbo Organic. Ang RB Sugbo GT ay patuloy na maglingkod sa mga sabungero samantalang ang RB Sugbo Organic ay mag produce ng mga hayop pamamagitan ng organic farming method.

Upang mas maige ang paglilingkod ng RB Sugbo sa mas marami pang karaniwang sabungero, nagdagdag po tayo ng dalawang bagong gamefowl farms. Isa sa kabundukan ng Agsungot, Cebu City at isa sa Escalante Negros Occidental.Ang dati nating farm sa Carmen, Bohol ay Linipat na natin sa Lawaan, Eastern Samar. Samakatuwid, may production farm ang RB Sugbo sa bawat rehiyon ng Visayas-- Central, Western at Eastern.Para naman sa mga kaibigan natin sa Luzon, may mga available na Sugbo fowl sa San Pedro Laguna. Kontakin nyo lang si Mr. Teofilo Morando, 0928-503-2047. Kung nais nyo ng karagdagang impormasyon mag text lang sa 0927-995-4876 o check out tilaok.blogspot.com or rbsugbo54.blogspot.com.Marami rin tayong matutunan sa mga blog na ito dahil kabilang sa mga serbisyo ng RB Sugbo ay ang libreng pamamahagi ng kaalaman sa pagmamanok.


Pagsasanay na Angkop sa Pilipino Knife
Dekada 60 nang magsimulang nagsidatingan sa bansa ang mga manok Amerikano. Malaki ang lamang ng mga Texas sa abilidad, tapang at lakas kung ihambing sa mga native tinale kaya nagpapanalo ang mga ito. Hindi naman nagpahuli ang iba pang may kayang sabungero kayo dumami ng dumami ang mga imported na manok.
Bunsod ng pagdami ng mga manok Amerikano, ay nainpluwensiyahan din ang ating pagpapakain at pagaalaga ng manok tinale. Sinunod ng mga sabungerong Pilipino ang natutunan nila sa mga Amerikano nagmamanok. Ngunit hindi pala dapat. Napakalaki ng kaibahan sa uri ng laban sa Amerika sa ating nakasanayan dito. Doon magtatagal ang labanan dahil gaff o kaya’y short knife ang kinakabit sa manok. Dito ginagamit natin ay ang Pilipino slasher knife. Napakadali matapos ang labanan dito sa atin.
Kaya iba ang nararapat na ehersisyo sa manok para sa Pilipino knife sa manok na para sa gaff o kaya’y short knife. Para sa atin ang mga maiinam na ehersisyo ay ang kahig, sampi, handspar, bitaw, at ang rotation o paglipatlipat sa manok sa iba’t-ibang kinalalagyan ilang beses sa bawat araw.
Bitaw
Ito ang pinakamalapit sa katotohanan. Tari na lang ang kulang at ang bitaw ay aktwal na labanan na talaga. Sa bitaw ay masasanay ng husto ang manok sa mga dapat gawin sa aktwal na labanan sa sabungan. Regular na ibitaw ang manok. Kahit dalawa o tatlong beses bawat linggo. Huwag lang tagalan. Ilang hatawan lang awat agad.
Palaging dalawang rounds ang pagbitaw natin. Sa unang round dalawa o tatlong paluan lang awat na. Ipahinga muna natin ng mga 30-45 segundo at ibitaw ulit. Sa pangalawang pagbitaw hinahayaan natin sila hanggang apat o limang hatawan bago awatin.
Isang bagay lang ang bantayan, awatin agad pag may alin man sa dalawang manok ang maka billhold o tuka-kapit. Una dahil maaring makasira ito sa kanilang balahibo. Pangalawa, ayaw natin masanay ang manok sa pag tuka-kapit, yong bang tumutuka at kumakapit muna sa kalaban bago pumalo. Ang magaling na manok ay pumapalo na walang billhold. Ang billhold ay isa sa mga negtive traits na natalakay natin sa naunang kabanata sa pagpili.
Ang distansya sa pagbitaw ay depende sa sidhi ng pocus ng manok sa pakikigpalaban. May mga manok na kulang pa sa pagnanasang lumaban, malimit mauunahan ang mga ito. Kaya dapat pagganito, malapitan muna ang pagbitaw. Mga isang metro lang ang layo sa umpisa para agad-agad na magkapaluan at madala ang manok na kulang sa pocus dahil mauunahan ito. Palayo ng palayo ang pagbitaw habang patindi naman ang kanilang pocus sa pakikipaglaban.
Ang kakulangan sa pocos ay nangyayari sa mga stags, mga manok na bagong natapos sa paglugon at yong kagagaling lang sa cord area ng malalaking farm. Dahil ang mga ito ay kulang sa bitaw. Ang ganitong problema ay kasali sa mga inaayos natin sa foundation stage ng ating conditioning pyramid na tatalakayuin natin sa kabanata 6 ng bahaging ito.
Kahig at sampi
Sa pagkakahig ay naiensayo maige ang paa ng manok. Samantalang sa sampi nasasanay ang manok sa pagpatama sa kalaban.
Maganda kung sa madaling araw natin gawin ang pagkahig at sampi. Kailangan natin ang lugar na may ilaw. Una palakad-lakarin muna ang mga manok. Tapos, ikahig ang dalawang manok ng mga 45-60 seconds at isampi dalawang beses.
Sa sampi, dahil hawak ng handler ang buntot habang nagsasalpukan sa ere, makokontrola ng handler ang tamang layo. Dapat malayolayo para magsusumikap ang mga manok na maabot ang isa’t-isa at mapapaunlad ang kanilang reach. Huwag naman sobra ang layo na hindi na makapatama ang manok.
Handspar
Ang handspar o catch cock ay isa ring magandang paraan sa pagsasanay sa manok sa pagpatama sa kalaban. Sa handspar dahil hawak natin ang manok o dummy na pinapalo ng sinasanay na manok, mararama natin ang tindi at diin ng palo. At dahil kontrolado natin ang catch cock o dummy cock maari natin itong iposisyon kung saan mapapaunlad natin ang liksi ng manok na sinasanay.
Sa pag hand spar, magingat na tama lang ang layo ng manok na pinapalo sa pumapalo. Dapat tama lang na maabot ito ng palo na naka stretch ang paa ng manok na sinasanay. Kung sobra ang lapit masasanay ang manok sa short punching. At delikado pang magkatamo ng injury ang muscles ng manok na sinanasanay. Huwag naman sobra ang layo at di makapatama ang manok. Huwag sanayin ang manok na pumalo na di makatama dahil magiisip ito na walang mangyayari kahit pumalo siya dahil hindi naman makakaabot. Magkakaroon ito ng pagiisip at makaugalian na basta lilipad lang ngunit hindi papalo ng matindi.
Rotation
Ang rotation ay ang paglipatlipat ng kinalalagyan. Ang manok ay mas alerto at aktibo kung bagong lagay sa isang lugar. Pag tumagal ang manok sa isang lugar nagiging kampante ito at di na masyadong gumagalaw, kaya ilipat natin sa ibang lugar upang maging aktibo na naman ito at patuloy na maehersisyo.
Halimbawa 9am ilipat ang manok galing sa cord papuntang fly pen. Sa tanghali ilagay sa scratch box ng 5-10 minutes. Pagkatapos ilipat sa ibang pen. 3pm ibalik sa cord at doon na pakainin at pagpalipasin ng gabi.
Tandaan lang na sa pagrotation itaon na sa mga oras na mainit ang sikat ng araw tulad ng tanghali, ang manok ay nasa covered pen o sa lugar na malamig at may lilim.
Kung tayo’y may pasok at hindi natin magawa ang ganito, ang gawin natin ay arawan ang paglipat. Sa pen sa araw na ito, ilipat sa cord kinabukasan, at, sa ibang lugar sa susunod na araw.

Ang Iba’t Ibang Pasilidad
Sa pagkundisyon ng manok ay may iba’t-ibang pasilidad at gamit na kinakailangan. Sa sistema natin ng rotation exercises kinakailangan natin, maliban sa cord, ang iba’t-ibang mga uri ng conditioning pens. Ang conditioning pens ay yong mga ginagamit sa pagkundisyon. Mayroon din kasing mga breeding pens ang ginagamit sa pagpapalahi; at may mga growing pens, ang kinakailangan sa brooding at pagpalaki ng mga sisiw sa hindi pa pawalan sa pagalaan.
Ang ating mga conditioning pens ay hinati natin sa dalawang uri—ang exercise pens at ang rest pens. Ang exercise pens ay para sa pag-ehersisyo ng manok. Ang rest pens ay para sa pagpapahinga ng manok.
Ang ating mga exercise pens ay: ang big pen, fly pen, scratch pen, running pen, at scratch box. Ang mga rest pens naman ay ang multipurpose pen, pointing pen, limber pen, at ang stall o kulungan.
Big pen
Big, kaya medyo malaki ang pen na ito dahil dito ay sinasamahan nating ng inahin ang ating kinukundisyon. Mas malaki mas maige. Kung wala tayong gaanong lugar mga 10 feet by 10 feet ay pupwede na. Para tipid, fish net lang at kawayan ang materyales na gamitin.
Fly pen
Karamihan sa mga flypen ay may sukat na 4 feet by 8 feet. Ang hapunan ay hindi bababa sa 6 feet ang taas mula sa lupa. Dapat ay loose soil o buhangin ang flooring ng fly pen para hindi masakit sa paa ng manok sa pag lipad-baba nito. May mga paraan upang mainganyo ang manok sa paglipad-baba. Sa atin naglalagay tayo ng mga hens sa kulungan pagitan ng dalawang fly pen. Ang isang kulungan ng hen an nasa ibabaw at makikita ng manok kung ito’y nasa lupa. Sa pagnanais na makapiling ang inahin lilipad ang manok papuntang itaas. Pagdating nito sa itaas hindi na nito makikita ang hen. Ngunit may isang hen naman na nasa kulungan sa ibaba na kitang-kita. Bababa naman ang manok. Paulit ulit niya itong gagawin bago ito mahapo at sumuko. Pag-nagpahinga na ang manok pwede na nating ilipat sa ibang pen nang magamit naman ng ibang manok ang fly pen.
Ang fly pen ay pwede ring gawing scratch pens dahil loose soil o kaya buhangin ang flooring nito.
Scratch pen
May dalawang uri ng scratch pen ang RB Sugbo. Ang heavy scratching pen at ang light scratching pen. Tulad ng fly pen, ang flooring ng heavy scratching pen ay loose soil at buhangin. Kaya nga ang fly pen ay maari ring gawing heavy scratching pen. Ang light scratching pen ay tuyong dahon ng saging ang laman para magaan kaskasin ng manok at mabilis. May flooring ito na plywood bago lagyan ng tuyong dahon. Tinatawag din itong scratch box. Maiengayo ang manok sa pagkaskas sa scratch pen pamamagitan ng pauntiunting pag hagis ng pakain sa loob ng pen. Crackerd yellow corn ang pinakamaigeng gamitin. Una, dahil sa taglay nitong enerhiya na maaring pangpalit agad sa enerhiya na magagamit ng manok sa pagehersisyo. Pangalawa mas madali itong makita ng manok dahil sa matingkad na kulay.
Ang heavy scratching pen ay para pageensayo sa mga kalamnan ng hita at paa. Dahil mabigat ang loose soil o buhangin, gagamit ng lakas ang manok sa pagkaskas. Mapapaunlad nito ang slow twitch muscles. Ang light scratrching pen ay para pag develop sa fast twitch muscles. Upang maiwasan ang muscle bound gamitin ang scratch box pagkatapos ng bawat mabigat na ehersisyo, tulad ng bitaw, kahig at sampi.
Running pen
Ang pen na ito ay para rin sa pagensayo sa paa ng manok. Karamihan sa mga running pens ay may sukat na 2 ½ by 12 feet. Mababa lang ito mga 3 feet lang ang taas. Kalimitan magkatabi ang dalawang running pens. Ang ibang nagkukundisyon parehong tandang ang laman ng magkabilang running pens. Para sa atin mas maige na inahin ang nasa kabilang pen. Mas malikot ang manok kung inahin ang hinahabol. At saka ayaw natin na masanay ang kinukundisyon natin na maging kampante na may kalapit na tandang na walang mangyayari. Baka sa totoong laban hindi ito magingat kahit kalapit na ang kalaban.
Multi purpose pen
Ang multi purpose pen ay isang rest pen. Dito hinahayaan lang natin ang manok kung ano gusto nitong gawin. May hapunan, loose soil, at mga tuyong dahon. Nasa manok lang kung anong nais nitong gawin. Malimit nating ginagamit ito kung palapit na ang laban, tulad ng panahon ng peaking period ng ating conditioning pyramid.
Pointing pen
Ang pointing pen ay kabilang sa ating mga rest pens. Itoy parang maliit na fly pen. Mga 3 feet by 6 feet ang laki at ang hapunan ay nasa taas na 3 feet lang. Medyo mas enclosed ito para limitado ang view ng manok papuntang labas at di gaanong maglilikot. Mas maige kung malayo ito sa kinalalagyan ng maraming manok. Sa sistema kasi natin hindi natin kinukulong ang manok hanggang sa araw ng laban. Itong pointing pen ang magsisilbeng kulungan. Dito nakalagay ang manok sa huling dalawang araw bago ang laban. Dapat malamig at medyo madilim ang kinalalagyan ng pointing pen.
Kulungan at limber pen
Sa araw ng laban ay pinapasok natin sa kulungan ang manok bilang bahagi ng ating pagpatuktok o pointing. Ngunit may mga oras na nilalabas natin ito sa limber pen upang makapag-stretching, mapakain at maobserbahan ang takbo ng pagpapatuktok.
Cord
Itoito ang mga conditioning pens. Ngunit hindi ibig sabihin na kung wala ang mga ito o kaya’y hindi tayo kumpleto ay di na maaring ikundisyon ang manok. Kahit kulang tayo sa kagamitan may paraan pa rin. Ang mga pen ay maaring gamitin sa iba’t-ibang ehersisyo. Halimbawa, ang fly pen ay maaring scratch pen o running pen o multi purpose pen. A limber pen at running pen ay maari gawing pointing pen.
Ang mahalaga ay may cord tayo. Habahabaan lang natin ang ating cord at magagawa na ng manok ang gusto nitong ehersisyo habang ito’y nasa cord. Maglakad, lumipad, o kumakha. Ilipatlipat lang sa iba-ibang cord ang manok para palaging aktibo.
Isang pamamaraan sa pag ehersisyo ng pakpak kung walang flypen ay ang pabalikbalik na pagbaba sa manok sa panahon na hahapon na ito. Paghapon ng manok ay ibaba ulit sa lupa. Lilipad ulit ito pabalik sa hapunan, ibaba na naman. Mga limang beses na ganito ay makakatulong na. Marami pa ring paraan, basta lang nauunawaan natin bakit ang isang bagay ay dapat gawin.


Pagpatuktok: Stress Management
Ang pagpatuktok ay ang salitang inampon ng RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology upang isalin sa Pilipino ang salitang Inglis na pointing. Ang ibig kasing sabihin ng mga Amerikano sa paggamit ng salitang pointing kung ang manok ang pagusapan ay “peaking.” Ang pagdala sa manok sa peak ng kakayahan. Ito ang hangad natin sa pagpatuktok, ang marating ng manok ang tugatog o tuktok ng kakayahang pisikal at mental sa mismo oras ng laban. Ang pagpatuktok, ay isa sa mga aspeto ng pagkundisyon na pinagaralan natin ng husto. Ito ang huling yugto, kung magkamali tayo dito, maaring maging pinal na ito. Maaring wala nang panahon upang ituwid ano man ang pagkakamaling iyon.
Ayon sa nakasanayang katuturan o depinesyon, ang pagpatuktok ay ang pagpapahinga, pagkontrola ng tubig sa katawan ng manok at timbang, at carboloading. Sa atin, sa RB Sugbo Gamefowl Technology ang ating makabagong palagay ay na ang pagpatuktok ay simpleng stress management lang.
Sa ating conditioning pyramid, ang pagpatuktok ay sa araw ng laban lang. Ngunit ang proseso ng stress management at energy priming any nagsimula ilang araw bago ang araw ng laban, na sakop sa tinatawag natin na peaking period.
Stress management
Ang makabagong konseptong ito ng RB Sugbo ay nakasalalay sa prinsipyo na ang stress ay mitsa ng pag bugso ng adrenaline o ang tinatawag na adrenaline rush. Ang adrenaline ay isang hormone sa katawan. Ang pagbugso nito ay bahagi ng natural defense mechanism ng katawan sa gitna ng panganib.
Sa panahon na gumagana ang adrenaline, ang tao o hayop ay mas matapang, malakas at mabilis kaysa pangkaraniwan. Tayo sa panahon na may sunog, halimbawa, ay mabubuhat natin ang mabigat na bagay. Kapag hinahabol tayo ng itak, ang tulin natin tumakbo. Ang mga sundalo pag nakarinig ng putok ay makararama ng nakaiibang katapangan.
Paglipas naman ng adrenaline rush, ang pagkahapo ang papalit. Ito ang sanhi ng pagiging “off” ng manok. Kaya ang layunin sa pag pamamahala natin sa stress, ay hindi ang pagiwas nito, dahil sa sabungan, sa dami ng tao, ingay at nakakaaibang kapaligiran, hindi maiiwasan na makakaranas ng stress ang manok. Ang gusto natin ay ang itaon ang stress at pagbugso ng adrenaline sa panahon ng paglalaban.
Hindi natin maiiwasan ang stress. Gamitin nalang natin.
Quick energy loading, hindi basta carboloading
Sa panahon ng adrenaline rush, ang katawan ay mangangailangan ng sapat na enerhiya upang suportahan ang pangangailangan na maging malakas at mabilis. At, dahil biglaan ang pagbugso ng adrenaline kailangan ang instant energy. Kaya tulad ng nasabi natin sa naunang kabanata, ATP-CP quick energy pathway ang ating pagtuunan ng pansin. Ang kailangan ng manok ay pakain na may mataas na antas ng glycemic index. Kailangan din ang suplemento ng creatine, glucose at ribose.
Isang bagay na mapait siguro lunukin ng maraming nagmamanok at mga nagtuturo ng pointing sa mga cocking schools, academy, magazine at telebisyon ay ang katotohanan na ang carboloading o glycogen loading ay hindi kinakailangan sa uri ng sabong natin dito sa Pilipinas. Ang nangangailangan ng carboloading ay ang mga atleta na sa endurance na kumpetisyon lumalaban tulad ng triathon, marathon at long distance cycling. Sa sabong , saglit lang tapos ang laban.
Ang kailangan ng manok ay hindi ang maraming glycogen sa atay kung hindi ang glucose sa dugo na agad agad magagamit. Dapat, mga pakain na mataas ang glycemic index (GI). Ibig sabihin,mga pagkain na madaling magpatataas ng sugar level sa dugo, kahit na madali rin ang pagbaba nito dahil, yon na nga, madali lang matapos ang labanan ng manok. Halimbawa may mga uri ng bigas na mataas ang GI tulad ng sticky rice at parboiled rice. Sa mga prutas naman ang patatas, kamote, watermelon at kalabasa. Mataas rin ang GI ng mga cornflakes, popped corn, at rice krispies. Kung gagamit ng mais ang fine corn ang pinakamaige. Katuwang sa pagbigay ng mga high glycemic na pakain ay ang pag suplemento ng creatine at ribose, dahil sa mga katwiran na natalakay na natin sa naunang kabanata.
May mga pagkain na mayaman man sa enerhiya ay hindi mataas ang glycemic index. Karamihan ay yong mataas ang fiber content tulad ng whole corn at ibang grains na may balat pa, at mga prutas tulad ng saging at mansanans. Matagal tagal bago mapataas ng mga pagkaing ito ang sugar level sa dugo. ngunit mas mahabahabang panahon naman ang lilipas bago bababa ulit ang sugar sa dugo. Sa matagalan na kumpetisyon magagamit ito ng husto kasi magsisilbeng time-released energy ito.Ang mga ito ang ginagamit sa pag-carboload, na para sa atin ay hindi naman kinakailangan ng manok.
Ang tinutukoy natin ay ang nakasanayang pamamaraan ng pag-carboloading na tinuturo ng iba. Ang pamamaraan na magbibigay ng mas mataas na bahagdan ng carbohydrate simula tatlo o dalawang araw pa bago ang laban. Sa pagaaral natin hindi na kailangan ito, lalo na’t kung ang sistema ay tulad din ng tinuturo ng iba na umpisahan ang keeping o pagpahinga sa manok sa loob ng kulungan dalawang araw bago ang laban. Sa ganitong sistema sa pagpapahinga, hindi na gaanong gumagamit ng enerhiya ang manok kaya hindi na ito magkakailangan ng naraming carbohydrate.
Tayo nga, hindi na tayo nagka-carboload, kahit na ang sistema ng ating pagpapahinga ay ang tinatawag nating “active rest.” Hindi natin pinapasok ng matagal ang manok sa kulungan, maliban lang sa araw ng laban. Kung paminsanminsan ay pinapasok natin sa kulungan ito ay upang ang manok ay masanay at di manibago pagdating sa araw ng laban.
Ang RB Sugbo ay dati ring nagka-carboload. Ginawa din natin ito, at hindi naman kasamaan ang naging resulta. Ngunit sa ating pagpapatuloy na pagsisiyasat at pag esperimento ay natukoy natin ano ang talagang dapat. Hindi naman nakakasama ang carboloading, ang sinasabi lang natin ay hindi na kailangan. Ang kailangan ay ang pagtiyak lang na may sapat na glucose sa dugo at creatine at ribose sa kalamnan sa araw ng laban.

Makabagong Pamamaraan
Ng RB Sugbo sa Pagkundisyon

Ang pamamaraan ng RB Sugbo sa pagkundisyon ng manok panabong ay medyo naiiba sa nakasanayan ng maraming sabungero. Ang sa atin ay hindi 14, 21 o 28-day keep tulad ng sa marami. Sa iba ay may kalendaryo kung saan nakalagay anu-ano ang mga gawain sa bawat araw mula day 1 hanggang araw ng laban.
Ang ganitong pamamaraan ay magandang tingnan sa programa ngunit sa praktikal magkakaproblema dahil sa kawalan ng flexibility. Hindi lahat ng manok ay magkatulad ng reaksyon. Maaring ang iba ay mapaaga ang pag-peak, samantalang ang iba naman ay wala pa sa tuktok pagdating ng araw ng laban.
Ang sa atin ay parang hagdanan. Ang lahat ng manok ay dadaan sa unang baitang, ang “foundation stage” kung kailan inaayos natin ang mga kakulangan ng manok sa pisikal, mental at nutrisyunal na aspeto. Inaayos muna natin ang pangangatawan, ang kundisyon ng mga kalamnan at ang pokus ng manok sa pakikipaglaban. Sa puntong ito pinaiiral natin ang tibay at lakas ng manok.
Walang takdang bilang ng araw sa pagpananatili ng manok sa stage na ito. Kung sa ibang pamamaraan, kalendaryo ang nagdidikta, sa atin, ang aktwal na kundisyon ng manok ang makapagsasabi kung ang manok ay kailangan pang manatili sa baitang na ito o aakyat na sa susunod.
Ang pangalawang baitang ay ang “battle-ready stage.” Dito ang pakain at pagsasanay ay nakatuon sa pagpairal ng bilis, liksi, at ang kakayahang makahugot ng quick energy na kakailanganin sa laban. Dito ang mga manok ay para nang boy scout na laging handa. Kung may nalalapit na laban, pagpipilian natin ang mga boy scout kung alinalin ang mga pinakahanda. Ang mga ito ang iakyat sa susunod na baitang, ang “peaking period.”
Ang peaking phase ay ang huling isang linggo bago ang laban. Kasunod nito ay ang pangapat na stage, ang”pagpatuktok” o “pointing.” Ito ay sa araw ng laban.
Sa sistemang ito ang kundisyon ng manok ang masusunod hindi ang bilang ng araw. Ang sistema nating ito ay tinatawag natin na “conditioning pyramid.”

Conditioning Pyramid
Sa pagkukundisyon ay may iba’t-ibang yugto o stages. Hindi kasi mangyayaring sa lahat na panahon ay na sa peak o tuktok ng kakayahang pisikal ang isang manok o atleta. Kailangan ay may periodization.
Sa RB Sugbo ang mga periods o yugto sa pagkundisyon ng manok panabong ay: 1) foundation stage, 2) battle-ready stage, 3) peaking period, at, 4) pagpatuktok o pointing.
Sa bawat yugto mayroon tayong layunin, o mga nais nating magawa. Ibaiba ang pakain at saka ehersisyo.
Foundation stage
Ito ang pinakapundasyon. Sa yugtong ito natin inaayos ang ano mang kakulangan mayroon ang manok sa kundisyong mental, pisikal at nutrisyunal. Dito pinapaganda natin ang katawan; pinauunlad ang kalamnan o muscles, at sinisiguro natin na wasto na ang pokus ng manok sa pakikipaglaban.
Medyo high-protein ang pakain sa foundation period. Lakas, tibay at resistensiya ang gusto nating ipairal ng husto sa yugtong ito.
Ang mga ehersisyo dito ay running pens na malakilaki na may kasamang inahin; fly at scratch pen; hand spar; at bitaw. Ang rotation o paglipat ng manok ng lugar ay sa bawat dalawa o tatlong araw.
Battle-ready stage
Pagnaisayos na ang pangangatawan at ang pisikal at mental na kundisyon ng manok, ito’y maari nang iangat sa susunod na yugto, ang battle-ready stage.
Hindi natin masasabi kung ilang araw o linggo bago ang isang manok ay maiangat sa susunod na baitang. Dahil nga sa sistema natin, hindi ang bilang ng araw, tulad ng 14 o 21 days, ang masusunod, kung hindi ang aktwal na kundisyon at kahandaan ng manok.
Ang mga manok lang na nakapasa na sa foundation stage ang maaring ilipat sa battle-ready stage. Dito ang ating layunin ay ang mapairal ang bilis at liksi, at ang mapaunlad ang kakayahan ng manok sa mga high-intensity quick exercises o mabigat ngunit madalian na ehersisyo. Yan kasi ang malimit na kakailanganin ng manok sa tunay na laban. Sa tunay na laban kailangan ang bilis at lakas ngunit kalimitan sa loob lang ng maikling sandali. Ang isang round sa boksing na tatlong minuto ay katumbas na ng napakahabang labanan sa sabong. Sa manok, ilang saglit lang tapos ang laban.
Sa battle-ready stage, ang rotation o paglipat ng manok sa ibang kalalagyan ay ginagawa ilang beses sa loob ng isang araw. Kinakahig at sinasampi na ang mga ito. Malimit na ang paggamit ng scratch box. Mas binibigyan na natin ng mas malaking kahalagahan ang sampi, hand spar at ang pagbitaw sa yugtong ito.
Dahil mas marami at mas intense na ang ehersisyo sa battle-ready stage, ang pakain natin ngayon ay may mas mataas nang bahagdan ng carbohydrate kaysa pakain sa foundation stage.
Peaking period.
Tuwing may palapit na laban, tayo’y nagpipili sa mga manok na nasa battle-ready stage at ang mga sa palagay natin pinakahanda, yong sa tingin natin ay madaling i-kundisyon para sa araw ng laban, ang inaakyat natin sa susunod na baitang, ang peaking period. Ito ay sa huling linggo bago ang laban.
Sa puntong ito, dahandahan na nating pinapahinga ang manok. Ang prosesong ito ay tinatawag natin na active rest dahil may mga gawain at ehersisyo pa rin, yon lang hindi na nga gaanong mabigat at marami dahil nais nating iwasan ang mga injury sa kalamnan at mga ugat na maaring hindi natin mapansin. Nais din nating makaipon ang manok ng sapat na enerhiya na magagamit sa laban.
Dito rin natin ilapat ang mga orihinal na konsepto ng RB Sugbo sa stress management, blood conditioning, at quick energy loading.
Higit-kumulang ang pakain sa yugtong ito ay katulad ng sa battle-ready stage ngunit nagbibigay na tayo ng angkop na suplemento tulad ng Sagupaan b50/2 Forte o kaya’y Complexor para sa bcomplex at iron; Respigen 15 para sa b15; Voltplex para sa creatine; at Reload Plus para sa ribose.
Pagpatuktok o pointing
Ito ang huling yugto. Pinipili natin alin sa mga manok na nasa peaking period ang ating ilalaban at ipatuktok sa araw ng laban. Ang hangad natin ngayon ay walang iba kung hindi ang maabot ng manok ang tuktok ng kakayahang pisikal at mental sa oras mismo ng laban.
Dito nakasalalay ang lahat. Kung magkamali tayo sa panahong ito, maaring masayang lang ang lahat nating pinagpaguran. Sisikapin nating maabot ang ating layunin pamamagitan na pahinga, stress management, at quick energy boosting. Sa puntong ito, hindi lang ang kaalaman sa pagpatuktok ang kailangan kung di pati na ang kaalaman sa pagkilala kung ang manok ay nasa tuktok na.
May mga palatandaan kung ang manok ay nasa tuktok na. Una ay ang ipot. May apat na klaseng ipot. Ang intestinal dropping. Ang buong ipot na berde at may halong puti. Ibig sabihin nito may laman pa ang bituka ng manok. Ang pangalawa ay ang cecal dropping. Malapot na kulay tsokolate. Ang pangatlo ay ang urate dropping. Puti na parang bula ng sorbetes. Paliit ng paliit ito. At pag maliit na ito, masasabi na ang manok ay nasa tuktok. Ang pangapat na uri ng ipot ay ang moisture dropping. Ito’y parang malagkit na likido na kulay puti. Sa umpisa kung maliit pa ito ay maituturing na nasa kundisyon pa ang manok. Ngunit, ang moisture dropping ay palaki ng palaki at ito’y senyales na di maglaon ay mag off na o lalampas na ang manok sa tuktok.
Isa pang senyales ng magandang kundisyon ay ang ayos ng manok. Ang manok na maganda ang pagpatuktok ay alerto ngunit mahinahon. Hindi magalaw ngunit matalas ang mga mata at pandinig. Sa ganitong sitwasyon kinakailangan ang matinding stress management. Ang manok na nasa ganitong kalagayan ay malapit nang umandar ang adrenaline. Sa kunting pagkabigla, pagkagulat at pagkagitla ito’y maaring maging sanhi ng adrenaline rush na mauuwi sa maaga at di napapanahon na pagtuktok. May pagkakataon na ang ganitong kundisyon ay makikita o nahahalata sa pag-head knocking ng manok o ang panginginig o pagpagpag ng ulo. Ito ang tinatawag natin sa Inglis na “at the edge.” Dapat i-hold ang manok na ganito at itaon ang pagbugso ng adrenaline sa oras ng laban sa itaas ng gradas o rueda.
Ang nakakaibang kapaligiran sa luob ng gradas, ang dami ng tao at tindi ng ingay ay ang maging mitsa ng pagandar ng adrenaline. Makakatulong din ang wastong pag-heating ng manok sa gradas bago bitawan.
Tulad ng sa ibang aspeto ng pagmamanok sentido komon pa rin ang dapat pairalin sa pagpatuktok.
Sa konsepto natin na stress management, tandaan na ang ano mang maaring maging sanhi ng stress tulad ng gutom, pagkauhaw, pagkagitla, pagkagalit ay maari ring maging sanhi ng pagbugso ng adrenaline at bunsod nito ay ang maaga at di napapanahon na pagtuktok ng manok. Iwasan ito. Dahil paglipas ng adrenaline rush, pagkahapo ang papalit. “Off” na ang manok.
Transition phase
Sa labas ng ating conditioning pyramid ay may transition phase. Bago ipasok sa unang baitang ang manok ay purgahin, paliguan ng antimite shampoo, at i-bacterial flushing. Gawin din natin dito ang iba pang gawain tulad ng pagputol ng tahid, paggupit, o ano pa.
Kung ang isang manok ay magtagal sa foundation period ng mahigit isang buwan, ulitin ang cleansing process, ang purga, ligo at flushing bago iakyat sa battle-ready stage.
Sa panahon ng transition period mas maige kung samahan ng inahin ang manok sa loob ng dalawa o tatlong araw.
Gawin din ang transition phase sa mga manok na nakapasok na sa peaking period ngunit hindi nailaban para makapag unwind. Kung ituloytuloy kasi nating ang pagkundisyon sa mga manok baka mag peak ito na hindi napapanahon..